Which Sister Married Charles? – Genealogy Research

genealogy research

Genealogy research questions come in three varieties: events, relationships and biographical information. Today, I will examine a relationship question to determine, “Who married Charles H Stahl on 12 Apr 1883 in Franklin, Ohio, United States.

Begin With a Supporting Document in Your Genealogy Research

genealogy research
Marriage of  Charles Stall to Mary Calsberger

In this marriage record for Charles Stall, we read that he married Mary Carlsberger. These early marriage records provide little more than a date and a place. I could seek out church records since they were married by Rev. R Herbst.

The possible church records are the German congregation of Zion Church for the Evangelical Lutheran religion. At this time, I’m seeking out other records that could help me develop a theory before I dive into church records.

I’m having a lot of difficulty reading who signed the Affidavit (Thom ???). Let me know if you can read it.

Learn More About Mary Carlsberger

Before I can determine Mary’s maiden name and parents, I need to know enough about her to know I have reached the correct answer once I find it. I turn to census records as the fastest way to find out details about Mary.

Chas. H Stahl4250607080
Mary M3847586777
Mary E17
Katie M /
Catia M
Artie B1019
Ivy E71627
Harvey C41423
Lorene L/
Lorinna L
Hellen M616

The name of Mary M Stahl remains consistent throughout the census records. What’s not shown in this table is that Mary M was born in Ohio. So I’m searching for a Mary M born in Ohio in about 1863.

Search for Mary Carlsbeger Prior to Marriage

I searched for a potential set of parents for Mary Carlsberg and I discovered the following potential family.

George Karlsberger and his wife Maria Elizabeth Danner had six children born in Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio. Since I’m focusing on Mary I focused on her and potential conflicts.

Household1870 Census*1880 Census**
Child 1 Magdalena, 8 Mary M, 18
Child 2 Margaret, 6 Maggie, 16

Between the two census records, the family did not use the same name for these daughters. Is Mary M, really Mary Magdalena? I want to find records that can confirm this. In some German families, Maggie is a nickname for Magdalena. There is a possibility that Mary M is Mary Magaret and the names were flip-flopped in the census records.

In short, I am not 100% sure that I know which of these sisters married Charles Stahl. Some of you would say, “There’s no way this happens!” but when in doubt, search it out.

Find Additional Documents Answer the Genealogy Research Question

Vital records immediately come to mind as a possible solution to my query. According to the FamilySearch Wiki, “Although Ohio enacted a statute in 1856 -1857 requiring registration of births, deaths, and marriages, many counties did not comply. A second law was written in 1867 but, again, was not always followed.” In 1908, Ohio registered births at the county level. Andy birthdate between 1867 – 1908 are kept at the Franklin County Probate Court but most are accessible online.

The daughter’s birth years precede the registration of births in Franklin County, therefore I must search for alternative records

To further establish who married Charles Stahl, I’ve researched the children of Charles and Mary M using online vital records.

YearDocumentMother’s Name
1888Katie M’s Birth RecordMary M. Karleberger
1893Ivy’s Birth RecordMary M. Carlsberger
1896Chas H Birth RecordMary M. Karlsberger
1906Odelia’s Marriage RecordCarlsberger
1917Mary E Stahl’s Marriage RecordMagdalina Karlsberger
1920Mary Elizabeth’s Death RecordMary Karlsberger
1923Katie M’s Marriage RecordMagdalene Garlsberger
1927Ivy’s Death RecordMary Karlsburger
1940Helen’s Marriage RecordMay Kalsberger
1992Lorienne’s Death RecordKarlsberger

(FYI: It is believed Charles H is the same son found in the Census record as known as Harvey C.)

Current Conclusion For Which Sister Married Charles

Although I have not completed a reasonably exhaustive search, I think I have enough evidence to support the conclusion that Magdalena in 1870 and Mary M in the 1880 Census is the same person and the sister who married Charles Stahl.

What other records would you examine in this genealogy research question to further establish the case? Or do you think it’s fully resolved?

genealogy research
genealogy research

Devon Noel Lee

Devon Noel Lee is passionate about capturing and preserving family stories so no one alive today has to be researched, or forgotten, tomorrow. She has authored 6 how-to books, a memoir, two published family history biographies, and over 60 family scrapbooks. She's an enthusiastic speaker who energizes, encourages, and educates at the same time.

6 thoughts on “Which Sister Married Charles? – Genealogy Research

  1. I think of Maggie as a nickname for Margaret, especially since I have a relative of that name and nickname. (I've never known a Magdalene.)
    What about newspaper records? For any family member in any likely decade? Do keep your readers updated!

  2. Will do. I have a great-grandmother Magdalena Marguerta Hoppe who married Henry Geiszler. Her nickname was Maggie. I figured the Maggie was associated with Magdalena rather than the Marguerita. Perhaps that's because my mother's aunt Maguerite went by Peggy. I'll let you know what I figure out.

  3. Isn't it frustrating when you have a potential/likely link, but don't have the evidence you need to prove it? Drives me crazy! Here's hoping that you find such a link and prove that George and Anna Margarethe are related (you probably know this already, but many Germans traditionally went by their middle names. It wasn't unusual to have all same-sex sibs to have the same first name, in fact).

  4. Hi my name is Bill white my grandmother was Clara Elizabeth Karlsberger White her father was Charles her grandfather Conrad who came to the us in 1825
    The George Karlsberger has been a pain in my side for too many years! There are actually two (I think) George Paulaus was George and Conrads father and George paul died in the state mental hospital i cannot connect the either George to Conrad .
    Francisco married one of my great grandma's sisters.. and my great grandmother is buried on her grave I will try and send you pictures of the grave cards if you like
    Bill white

Leave a Reply